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Post by quaetam on Mar 22, 2010 22:30:38 GMT -5
Sorry to double post, but about that alibi you suggested, there are two problems. First, Wario was the Miller last game. Second, Weldar also used the backup cop scenario. The fact that no one doubted Weldar until SIAB attempted to recruit him means that no one else in that group has reason to doubt such a claim, but they could easily detect a pattern between me and Weldar.
I've thought of another good one though. Survivor. Here's what my role PM would be:
Role: Survivor Affiliation: Neutral Character: Wario You are Wario. There are great opportunities for men like you in times like these. You're a man of avarice and gluttony, a gambler and drug dealer out for purely his own profit. Your only objective is to survive to the end of the game. However, you're also an untrustworthy Guido bastard. Do not expect your task to be easy.
EDIT: I actually think I could go with a character that's much less likely to be in this game already. Here's a better example:
Role: Survivor Affiliation: Neutral Character: Fox
You are Fox, scum of the immigrant tent city, preying on the those who trespass on your turf. Life is hard for your kind, and you will do whatever it takes to survive, from petty crime and highway robbery to foraging in the back alleys for scraps of food. Your only goal this game is to survive until the end, regardless of victor. However, shady as you are in the eyes of the swine that roams the streets, don't expect your job to be easy.
When I send this to Avalanche, I can say that the last sentence makes me feel that I might have either a Miller or Hated Townie aspect to my role as well. Do you think it has merit?
Also, should I contact Avalanche this next dayphase or do you think he plans to get in touch with me?
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 23, 2010 19:07:21 GMT -5
He said it wouldn't be necessary to get in touch with you yet, since we already could destroy the others, but he said I should do as I please. I could say that you are a survivor, and just need to make it to the end, and the wording in your description "However, shady as you are in the eyes of the swine that roams the streets, don't expect your job to be easy." makes you sound like a miller.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 23, 2010 19:13:35 GMT -5
Role: Mafia Associate Affiliation: Town Character: Lakitu You have always been around to aid the citizens of the mushroom kingdom as the main informant with you news reports. However, with your news station destroyed, you are out on your own and have resorted to aiding the mafia. This was not a good idea. You owe the don money, and now the Mafia is after you. The Mafia knows who you are, and if you disappoint them, they can choose to kill you during the night, without losing their normal nightkill.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 23, 2010 21:15:17 GMT -5
The only reason I think I should get in contact is because as a survivor, I might need to affirm my alliance to the town. I could 'get in contact' with you this next dayphase. The one problem I have with this is that I'd have to be directly associated with you, meaning that if one of us is discovered we're likely to both be found out. I suppose we should see how things play out during this next dayphase before we decide. Yes, the "shady as you are in the eyes of the swine that roams the streets" part is intended to be a miller reference, as Fox always calls the cops "swine" . As for your role, I like it, very convincing. We should have them running in circles when it comes down to the endgame.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 30, 2010 16:09:37 GMT -5
I'm telling Avalanche that there's a new Don, so the Mafia have control over me again, which is why I'm voting no one, but I can also only send one PM a day to a person, and only as a reply, so I'm not caught. The added bonus of this is that I told him not to trust anyone he has scanned from last nightphase on, so we might be able to get another townie or two lynched.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 21:07:04 GMT -5
Are you sure about this? It's risky, but if you can pull it off it will help when I inevitably tell Avalanche that I think there's still a mafia don afoot. To be honest, if he believes you, you could win us the game with that BS . We need 3 days, remember.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 30, 2010 21:28:17 GMT -5
Bro, BS is my specialty. Our fate is not in our own hands, sadly, it is in Avalanche's. However, he's not that bright, and as such, I believe we can run this one home.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 21:37:32 GMT -5
I'd say a bit of both. Our fate is in Avalanche's hands, but also in our own in that we're both good BSers, and we both know the big picture, down to the townies' individual roles. The fact that we can map out with percision who to kill and plan our next move means our fate is, in fact in our hands. Take heart in the knowledge that we can manipulate the townspeople the way we have been, for it opens quite a few doors for us . To be honest, I wouldn't call Avalanche stupid at all. He made a good Don game 1, and he's made some really strong points. If anything he's a bit gullible, but he comes off as a lot more naive than he actually is.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 30, 2010 21:45:48 GMT -5
I know, it's a joke. If anything, Avalanche may be one of the best players on the site, but as you said, he's gullible. We can definitely take this to the end with both of us still alive, as long as we tread carefully. I think we should start planning our kill now, just in case there's a vig, so we can get our kill in first.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 22:09:48 GMT -5
Well, for that matter, who do you think the vig might be, if there is one? That would definitely be a priority as Ansem could give the townies a SECOND nightkill. My top suspicions are Spont, TheTJ, and Raya, as they are the only three whose roles we don't know . Raya should be an obvious one, because if her dependency was killed by us she'll have vig powers, but she's just as good to us alive as dead, because she's likely to be killed tomorrow. Spont is another big one here because he seems to have joined the alliance, and we don't know his role yet. EDIT: For the record we know what Raya's role is, she's just suspicious anyways. And even though we don't know JGH27's identity, he's probably going to die today. As for TheTJ, I don't know what to make of him, so he's definitely a candidate, just not as strong as the other two. However, I might add that these three are all people who are likely to get lynched, especially TheTJ, who got scanned last nightphase (and will now be suspicious thanks to your theory). JGH27 will also remain suspicious if he survives thanks to your PM to Avalanche. I suggest we kill someone random and unlikely to be protected, like DRTJR or Spont. What matters most is that the kill succeeds, because even though taking out a high-ranking townie would be perfect, we need most of them alive for either the possibility that they'll get lynched or their support for us. However, if you have reason to believe Mentok will go unprotected we need him dead more than the rest of them.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 30, 2010 22:13:19 GMT -5
I think we're the safest killing off DRTJR tonight, then the next night, killing MENTOK when he isn't protected.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 22:17:44 GMT -5
Sounds good.
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Post by minbyaran on Mar 30, 2010 22:34:33 GMT -5
...and with that post, MENTOK should be expecting some fire to be directed at him.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 22:38:42 GMT -5
Well, probably not right away, Avalanche (and through Avalanche the rest of the alliance) trusts him too much. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it's brought up in the next day or so when we're out of leads again.
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Post by quaetam on Mar 30, 2010 23:47:03 GMT -5
Alright. I'm going to go ahead and say I could be screwed by uncontrollable circumstances here. However, there IS a way out. We'd need td260 dead tonight so he can't confirm JGH's role. I wouldn't think about changing that kill unless the death doesn't confirm JGH to be survivor though.
EDIT: Which it probably won't, given that Fobbs' role wasn't revealed.
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